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pushaz
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Post by pushaz » 2009-10-01 12:16

Shift - ka ir sakau...Bet ne visiems suprast ;)
Deft - tu nejuokink su savo isvedziojimais apie masine nvidia \\\"nesekme\\\" laptopu vga.Speju,neturi jokios bedos susijusios su siuo dalyku,tiesiog nori paloti.
Zmogeli,nuo kada negalima negalima LYGINTI dvieju vga pastatytu i viena kategorija?? :D
Jei tau GTX260 daro 4870 tik 3fps,rimtai siulyciau nusiimt raudonus akinius.
5870x2 bus 2 cipu vga,kuriam atsaka tures ir Nvidia - jau pranesta,kad praktiskai tuo paciu metu bus isleistas ir Nvidia dvigalvis,taip kad viskas cia lyginima kaip ir turi buti,ir nereikia isvedziojimu i lankas.

developeris
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Post by developeris » 2009-10-01 12:16

oj paguodei kad veikia :) bet , kad kaista be proto...

pushaz
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Post by pushaz » 2009-10-01 12:17

http://www.3dnews.ru/news/nvidia_gtc09_ ... 300_fermi/

Lentele (zemiau),kuri pasako siek tiek daugiau info

linaaslt
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Post by linaaslt » 2009-10-01 12:28

juokas apima perskacius jusu komentarus, kam cia reik pestis. bus NV flagmanas geresnis uz 5870, nu ir gerai, bet nekekvienas is cia komentuojanciu ji isigys, nepamenu kas sake, bet jis buvo teisus teigdamas kad pagrindinei pinigai pareina is mid-end ploksciu, tokios ir naujosios ATI yra, NV su savo zverim niekaip netilps i tokius pinigus, tai va is visu jusu komentuojanciu ne vienas nesugebes nusipirkt tos naujosios, zerincios gt300... o ati bus ikandama gal 50%, va cia ir skaiciai prasides... man klausimas kyla, gt300 turi tikrai daug naujoviu, tik ar tai pades jai kokiuose testuose ar kur kitur... laukiam testu tada bus aisku :)

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Post by pushaz » 2009-10-01 12:29

Geriausia is viso sito,is nauju ati ir nv vga - kad kainos turetu buti konkurencingos,o tokiu geru vga ati 4xxx serija ir nv gtx2xxx serija kainos bus super.As asmeniskai maziausiai noriu,kad kuri issiverztu perdaug i prieki,nes tada automatiskai nelieka tos konkurencijos,kuri mums suteikia uz tokia pakankamai maza kaina turet tokio galingumo vga

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Post by pushaz » 2009-10-01 12:34

Linas - jei butum labiau pasidomejes ar bent paskaites linkus,ten aiskiai parasyta - nv tures vga nuo pacio high end,iki pacio low end.Kas reiskia,kad bus visokio kainu ir performance pasirinkimo.Pagal tave,Nv budama sios rinkos lydere nezino tokiu dalyku?High enda sduaro gal vos 5%,kas yra labai mazi pinigai.
Niekas nesipesa,diskutuoja,gal kiek ne taip kaip reiketu,bet ir ne paciu blogiausiu budu ;)
Is ko tu sprendi,kad nei vienas is cia komentuojanciu nesugebes nusipirkti to,ko nori?Va tokie komentarai tai tikrai juokingi-visi perka kas ka nori,pagal savo poreikius

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Post by developeris » 2009-10-01 12:40

Man irgi juokingai skamba tokie komentarai , kaip , kad vistiek jus nepirksit ir pan. ne milijonus siais laikais tie kompai kainuoja :D pasitaupei truputi ir nusipirkai :) jau senai baiges tie laikai , kai 4-5k kompai kainavo :) dabar ir uz 2k gali kazka padoraus susirinkt...

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Post by pushaz » 2009-10-01 12:42

[c] developeris rašė:
Man irgi juokingai skamba tokie komentarai , kaip , kad vistiek jus nepirksit ir pan. ne milijonus siais laikais tie kompai kainuoja :D pasitaupei truputi ir nusipirkai :) jau senai baiges tie laikai , kai 4-5k kompai kainavo :) dabar ir uz 2k gali kazka padoraus susirinkt... [/c]

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Perki ka nori,pagal savo galimybes ir norus.
Realiai,dabartinio galingumo pc netgi per mazai kainuoja :D

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Post by SoTOP » 2009-10-01 12:45

Mane asmeniskai sioje RV800 ir GT300 kartoje labiausiai duomins TDP<140W ir kaina~250$ salygas atitinkancios plokstes. Nebent iki 2010 vidurio atsiras kazko dar naujesnio.

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Post by Jordan » 2009-10-01 12:53

SoTOP-> tikriausiai tave domins 5770/5750 :) Jos atrodo tik 2010 Q1 atsiras ir kaina turetu but apie 150$

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Post by SoTOP » 2009-10-01 12:55

Man atrodo kad 5770 ir 5750 su tokiom kainom bus sumaltos Nvidia. Nes cia nuo 4870 tai labai mazas pagreitejimas.

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Post by linaaslt » 2009-10-01 13:07

pushaz, ka tu zinai apie ju mid end ar low end? nieko :D turim info tik apie ju stipriausia video. palaukim testu ir bus aisku kas kaip, aisku dar ir kainu politika bus svarbi.
iIdomus komentaras is anandtech, verta paskaityt nes labai teisingos mintys.

GT300 looks like a revolutionary product as far as HPC and GPU Computing are concerned. Happy times ahead, for professionals and scientists at least...

Regarding the 3d gaming market though, things are not as optimistic. GT300 performance is rather irrelevant, due to the fact that nvidia currently does not have a speedy answer for the discrete, budget, mainstream and lower performance segments. Price projections aside, the GT300 will get the performance crown, and act as a marketing boost for the rest of the product line. Customers in the higher performance and enthusiast markets that have brand loyalty towards the greens are locked anyway. And yes, thats still irrelevant.

Remember ppl, the profit and bulk in the market is in a price segment nvidia does not even try to address currently. We can only hope that the greens can get sth more than GT200 rebranding/respins out for the lower market segments. Fast. Ideally, the new architecture should be able to be downscaled easily. Lets hope for that, or its definitely rough times ahead for nvidia. Especially if you look closely at the 5850 performance per $ ratio, as well as the juniper projections. And add in the economy crisis, shifting consumer focus, the difference of performance needed by sotware and performance given by the hw, the locking of TFT resolutions and heat/power consumption concerns.

With AMD getting out of the warehouses the whole 5XXX family in under 6months (I think thats a first for the GPU industry, I might be wrong though), the greens are in a rather tight spot atm. GT200 respins wont save the round, GT300 @500$++ wont save the round, and tesla wont certainly save the round (just look at sales and profit in the last years concerning the HPC-GPUCU segments).

Lets hope for the best, its in our interest as consumers anyway..

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Post by Jordan » 2009-10-01 13:24

SoTOP-> Cia tik isleidimo metu bus tokios kainos, o veliau nukris iki 99$ (as taip speju) Ju kaina kiek pustelta del 4870 performance+mazesnio tdp+DX11 :)

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Post by Lukuks » 2009-10-01 15:14

57xx turetu ne 2010 Q1 iseit, o spalio menesy.

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Post by Jordan » 2009-10-01 15:45

Tai jau spalio pirmoji :) Gali but gal kazka supainiojau su AMD 6 core :)

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Post by Vytautas » 2009-10-01 15:54

[c] pushaz rašė:
Vytautas - uzmirsai,kad nvidia sp visada daug efektyvesni - pvz 4870 turi 800sp,gtx 260 kiek? ;)
Ir kazkaip ta gtx260 praktiskai visur daro 4870..
Ne kiekyje esme,o kaip efektyviai jie dirbs.
Apie karsti sneki - nuo kada nvidia vga karstesnes nei ati??? :O ati visada pasizymejo savo isskirtiniu radiatoriu gabumais :)
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Dėl sp turiu sutikti, jog jų užtenka... Dėl cuda tai ten pajuokavau, nes, jei žinai, nvidia visur kiša savo cuda ir dabar dar nori pervadinti shader processors į cuda processors :)
P.S. GTX260 pirmoji versija tikrai nelenkė 4870, tam ir buvo juk išleista sp216 versija.

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Post by Lukuks » 2009-10-01 16:23

,,Radeon 5750 and 5770 are scheduled for launch around the official launch date of Windows 7 [give or take around October 22nd-23rd, depending on what continent you live on]. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/20 ... -near.aspx

Vytautai, na NV 216 sp versija isleido turbut todel, kad pakilo yield ( maziau broko buvo ), o ir siaip ATI neplanavo tiesiogiai konkuruoti pries gt200 su rv770 (250~ mm^2 vs 500~ mm^2). rv770 turejo buti tiesioginis 9800gtx konkurentas, bet gavos taip, kad nvidia su g200 smarkiai pasisiko ir turejo musti kainas, kad neprarastu market share. Man labai idomu: ar nvidia nors truputi pasidaro pinigo pardavinedama gtx260 uz tokia kaina kaip ir rv770 ir idomu ar pajegs sumazinti dar labiau, nes rv870 performance/$ ratio lenkia kaip reikalas gtx295 ir gtx285.

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Post by Jordan » 2009-10-01 16:42

Dadejimui pasakysiu, kad ptg.lt yra gigabyte super overclocked gtx260 680/1400/2500 uz 590lt, kuri i vieta deda net pacia gtx275 :) va linkas su rezultatais http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... iew-6.html Lukuks -> sakau, kad as susipainiojau ne tu :)

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Post by Lukuks » 2009-10-01 16:46

sry :) neperskaiciau galunes :)

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